Now that Bob Simi has become the 68th president of the Old Timers let’s look back and see who the other 67 were. The Association started in 1941 and Al Erle was the driving force behind the organization of this and the Oakland Old Timers. There have been two sets of fathers/sons to hold office, Tony Patch and Tony Patch Jr., plus Phil “Goose” Gosland and son Jerry. Rugger Ardizoia is the oldest living president and right behind him is Art Dikas, or visa versa whomever you talk to. Here is the complete list:
1941—Al Erle 1975—Al Lera
1942—Ed Kenna 1976—Vin Greely
1943—Marty Drury 1977—Joe Dutto
1944—Bill Haak 1978— Bill Tandy
1945—Otto Olson 1979—Bill Corbett
1946—Dan Collins 1980—George Roza
1947—Frank Ratto 1981—Joe Gaggero, Jr.
1948—Al Harman 1982—George Carey
1949—Heine Schwerin 1983—Ernie Golding
1950—Babe Pierotti 1984—Phil Stolz
1951—Jack Smith 1985—Dino Restelli
1952—Walt Leonhardt 1986—Pete Dalton
1953—George Stanton 1987—Don Benedetti
1954—Jack Kavanaugh 1988—Leo Martinez
1955—Al Schumaker 1989—Al Graf
1956—Bert Leroux 1990—Jack Gustafson
1957—Merev Silva 1991—Morey Chrisman
1958—Bill Nunes 1992—Don Mouhouey
1959—Hank Foge 1993—Jim Griffin
1960—Marty McQuinn 1994—Gary Bader
1961—Walter Lister 1995—Tom Doonan
1962—Ton Patch, Sr. 1996—Bob Lagomarsino
1963—Rugger Ardizoia 1997—Dave Longa
1964—Bill O’Brien 1998—Bill Jones
1965—Tony Gomez 1999—Tony Patch, Jr.
1966—Bob Preston 2000—Rich Ford
1967—Goose Gosland 2001—Manny Pirano
1968—Andy Durmanich 2002—Don Collopy
1969—Art Dikas 2003—Nick Cannuli
1970—Walt Spaelti 2004—Hank Baron
1971—Terry Tatarian 2005—Jerry Gosland
1972—Gene Gaviglio 2006—Woody Woodall
1973—George Jarvis 2007—Mike Reyna
1974—Irv Delman 2008—Bob Isola
Wednesday, February 4, 2009
Where Did the Term Sandlot Ball Come From?
From the book “The Golden Game, The Story of California Baseball” the term “sand lot ball” came about in the 1860’s. San Francisco ball players in this era liked to practice and play games in what is now the Civic Center area. Once hilly and rolling, it was a cemetery during the Gold Rush until the city flattened the land and removed the gravestones. Baseballers quickly gravitated to this empty sandy lot and the area become identified with the game that city residents began referring to ballplayers as “sandlotters ”guys who played “sandlot ball”. The term grew into widespread use and has since become an indelible part of the language of the game. Thus the term Sand Lot Ball was born and used ever since when referring to baseball played in San Francisco. What was the first fenced ball park in the West? That too happened in San Francisco as Recreation Grounds was built in 1968 in the Mission District at that time was the Irish section of the City. It was the first ball park in the state with a fence around it. The park opened on Thanksgiving Day for a game between the SF Eagles and the Wide Awakes of Oakland. The term Wide Awakes referred to men who got up early to play ball before going to their jobs. The Eagles won the game played before 3,000 spectators and the rivalry was started between Oakland and the City. Not much is known about the fence and how it was constructed but legend has it that it had knot holes and spaces between the boards wide enough for children to peer through to see the games. Thus they became members of the first California knothole gang.
Monday, December 1, 2008
Renna Reflects on Career

I then had a question and answer session with him.
Question: What do you think about today’s ball players and howmuch time they spend on the disabled list?
Answer: They don’t run enough. Too many of them break down because of a lack of running. In my day we ran and ran to keep our body in shape. Today they have the weight rooms and trainers, in our time we couldn’t lift weights or even swim because of the muscle structure not being conducive to baseball.
Question: Do salaries mean anything to you as a former player?
Answer: No, not really. I understand the reality of today and yesterday. I made $15,000 at the height of my career and at the time I was satisfied.
Question: Do you see any problems in baseball today?
Answer: None that I can see. Baseball has the best union in the world and free agency has really helped out the players. It’s not good for the fans to have their top players around for just a short time but the players have the freedom to go where they want.
Question: Who was the greatest player you ever saw?
Answer: I had the opportunity to see some of the best in the 1950’s, but the best was Mickey Mantle. He could do everything and when he learned to play the outfield he became one of the best. If it wasn’t for the leg injury who knows what he could have done. I saw him hit the 565 foot homer out of Griffith’s Stadium in 1953 against Chuck Stobbs. Mickey was batting right-handed against the leftty Stobbs who threw him an off-speed pitch that almost fooled him, but he stayed back and waited on the pitch. When it left the bat we all stood up in the dugout and watched the flight of the ball as it kept on going and when it cleared the clock at the top of the stadium in left-centerfield we were all in total amazement.
Question: What was your greatest moment?
Answer: My wife Roni was in the hospital about to deliver our first child. I didn’t

Question: Who was the toughest pitcher you faced?
Answer: Mike Garcia of the Indians, he just wore me out. Then one game I get hits off him in my first two at bats. As the teams were changing sides I passed Mike, who I grew up with in Hanford, and told him that I figured him out. In my next at bat Garcia knocked me down on the first pitch.
Question: Did you ever meet Joe DiMaggio?
Answer: Yes I was in spring training with the Yankees in 1950 in Joe’s last year and I met him. One of my jobs was to pitch batting practice in the morning workouts and then play the intra-squad game in the afternoon. One of the other rookies asked me to warm up with him and I told him that I was already loose because of pitching BP. I’m sitting in the dugout and there’s no one around except Joe at the other end. He says, “Hey kid you want to loosen up”? I immediately jumped up and tossed the ball with Joe. Later the other rookie comes up to me says, “Hey I thought you were already loose”? I said you ain’t Joe DiMaggio. Incidentally he got an autograph from DiMaggio as a kid in 1936 and still has it.
Question: So what did you do after baseball?
Answer: I decided to retire in 1959 even though I could have played a few more years. But with a family (now 3 children) I wanted more security in my life than baseball could offer me. So after searching around I took a job with Central Concrete Supply company as an estimator. I held that job for more than 26 years. I never wanted an inside job and doing the estimating kept me outdoors most of the time. He went into partnership with Manny Frito in Pacific Ready Mix and worked up to 1990. He finally decided it was time to spend more time with Roni, his wife for 55 years and their grandchildren. Major league baseball through their pension fund pays him a decent monthly retirement salary. He still lives in San Jose in the Willow Glen area and attends many of the PCL reunions and OTA dinners.
World Series Statistics
We picked the Rays in six and that didn’t turn out but this year’s World Series turned out to be a good one. Here’s some stats by the number. 5– Consecutive years that the World Series has been decided by a sweep or five games.
25– Years since the Phillies four major league franchises won a title. The 1983 76ers were the last to do so.
31– The Rays had a 31 game improvement in 2008 over 2007, 97 wins vs. 67 wins. 48– Closer Brad Lidge converted all 48 of his save chances for this season. 50– Number of hours from the first pitch on Monday Oct. 27 to the final out on Wednesday Oct. 29th.
Little Big Men Bring Home the Honors
The Giants Tim Lincecum won the NL Cy Young award and Dustin Pedroia wins the MVP of the American League. Both of these emerging super-stars are “little guys”. Lincecum is listed at 5’10” and about 160 lbs and Pedroia is 5’9” and about 170. In our day many players were under six feet and it wasn’t a big deal to see guys excel that weren’t big. Think about it, Marino Pieretti was about 5’7”; Mantle 5’11”; Willie Mays 5’10” and so on. Both Lincecum and Pedroia had big hurdles to overcome in this size conscience world we live in. If it wasn’t for the great mechanics Tim learned from his father he would just be another name. Pedroia was told he wasn’t big enough all his life growing up in Woodland. An interesting note on him is that our friend and former Mets Scout, Ken Wollenberg, had a part-time job last year up in Sacto delivering and picking up tires from retail stores. Ken goes into Radial Tire in West Sacramento on business when he notices a picture on the wall of Pedroia in a Red Sox uniform and another of a kid in a Little League type picture. So he asks the owner who the kid is in the pictures and he says, “That’s my son.” Surprised and not shy with words Ken goes on to tell Mr. Pedroia that this kid was going to win the Rookie of the Year award last year because of his scouting knowledge. Well it turns out that it happened and every time Wollenberg goes into Radial Tires Mr. Pedroia has good words for him.
Trivia Questions
Another stat for second basemen, Pedroia is one of only four AL second sackers to win the award. Who were the other three? And in the NL there were only six. Who were they? That’s your Trivia question of the month. The first four to get it correct will get lunch at one of the ad sponsor restaurants. And since no one got last months trivia questions with the prize being lunch at Caesar's here’s the correct answers: Question #1– As of opening day in 2008, what pitcher had the most career wins (112) in the 21st century? Roy Oswald.
#2– What was the only team in ML history to finish in last place with the worst record in its entire league despite scoring over 900 runs? 1930 Phillies.
#3– Who is presently the only player in ML history with 5,000 or more career at bats to post a career Slugging Average above .500 and hit less than 100 career home runs? Shoeless Joe Jackson
#4– What 200 game winner one year pitched for a 7th place team in an 8-team league, posted a woeful 5.08 ERA, gave up 30 home runs and yet won 20 games with 31 complete games? Bob Newsome 1938.
#5– Who is the only player to hit as many as 35 home runs before the All-Star break (37) and finish the season with less than 50 Hrs? Reggie Jackson 1969, 47.
Baseball Players Who Played Football
Thoughout the years there were many Old Timer baseball players that played dual sports and many excelled in football. We did some research and came up with some names of the two-sport players. Heading the list is former Lowell pitcher Bob Lee, who played college ball at UOP and then went on to have a great career as a quarterback in the NFL as a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings and three other teams. Not far behind was Frank Hall, who played for the legendary Milt Axe at Poly. Frank was an All-City catcher and quarterback in 1953-54. He later went to USC where he had a fine college career. Art Von Wronsky, was an All-City catcher for Lincoln and was also the quarterback on the football team. Jerry Gosland, was Lineman of the Year for Lincoln and a stand-out as an outfielder and later played at SF State College. Sacred Heart produced some outstanding baseball/football players including Ron Fassler, who was in the same backfield with O.J. Simpson at City College. Also representing the Irish were Warren Johnston, and Howard Poblitz, who played both sports. S.I. turned out Bob Simi, Association president Bob Isola and quarterback Mel Canevaro. Isola says he was a “hell of a football player” but a lousy baseball player. There are probably a ton of others but here are some that come to mind: Tony Marotto, Lincoln in 1968; Ray Monteroso, quarterback at Poly; Jim Poppin, a lineman at Balboa; Tony Patch, Jr., at Lincoln and Jim Ruane who was a coach at Washington. All of the above were great just ask, but how about Ollie Matson, from Washington, Bob St. Clair, Poly, Gino Marchetti, Ed Brown, Joe Scudero, Roy Barni, and Ralph Thomas, who all played on the great 1951 USF team and most were products of San Francisco.
Recording the History of the Association
We got two volunteers to start putting down the history of the SF Old Timers on paper. Ernie Golding and Leo Martinez said they would help research the past history so that Newsletter editor, John McCarthy, can start recording the glorious past of this one of a kind association. If anyone else would like to help, it’s needed. Call if you’re interested.
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Dito - Ruggiero Honored at Benedetti Dinner

Our leader is Frank Strazullo,
Who keeps telling people to bacca ma culo,
And why do you ask,
Because they are talking and talking,
He says shut up in the back, shut up in the front,
And that goes for the sides too,
He yells at the top of his lungs pay attention,
I have something to say,
And Frank’s four-letter words,
Get your attention right away.
We all do agree that it never gets old,
Because our Frank has a heart full of gold,
And now you all know why our Frank Strazullo,
Has the right to tell us, “Hey Bacca Ma Culo.”
That kind of says it all...congratulations to the dinner committee who put the evening together. Led by Frank and the others Dante Santora and Bob Tobener it was a great evening.
Pieretti Group Notice
Bob Tobener wants everyone to know there will no longer be any reserved seating due to the no-shows at recent luncheons. If you want to sit with your friends all you need to do is show up early and save a seat by placing a coat of something else to designate your spot. At the last luncheon the latest honoree was John Bologna. He attended Galileo HS and was a decent baseball player there. Caesar’s Restaurant located on the corner of Powell and Bay Streets will be added to the luncheon sites for the Pieretti lunches for 2009. Parking is available but limited.
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